larrys Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 We wind up racing PHRF on Lake Lanier most of the time. Our local PHRF rating in OD configuration is 180 which is a little tough in light summer conditions against boats with large genoas. A fellow J22 sailor thinks our local rating may be a little lower than many areas. How does 180 compare with your local rating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jhuus Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 We wind up racing PHRF on Lake Lanier most of the time. Our local PHRF rating in OD configuration is 180 which is a little tough in light summer conditions against boats with large genoas. A fellow J22 sailor thinks our local rating may be a little lower than many areas. How does 180 compare with your local rating? In PHRF-LO, which covers a wide area around Lake Ontario, it's 165 with a spinnaker and 189 without. I race with those ratings with spinnakers on Tuesdays and without on Thursdays, and we tend to average around the middle of both fleets. I'd be happier if they bumped the numbers up a bit though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sailor2526 Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 The Gulf Yachting Association (Florida to Texas) uses 183 as a base rating with the following adjustments: no lifelines -3, no engine -3, oversize spinnaker pole -3 (1-1/4" over J - yes its nit picking) small jib +6 so a basic J/22 rates 180. For PHRF races I have a 155 genoa (-6) and a second shorter spinnaker pole = J with old spinnaker cut down for a net rating of 177. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurassicJ Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 One of the Johnstones wrote an article on the differences in PHRF ratings for various J-Boats. I recall that he said the J22 should rate 6 sec/mi slower than the J24 (both boats in OD configuration). Sorry, I don't remember where I saw the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 Hello The Chesapeake Bay PHRF rates the J/22 in one design trimm at 183. I believe the 155 genny would give the boat a -6 second rating so 177. In most cases the 155 is not worth the rating difference. The only time it may be worth it, is in a very narrow range of probably 3-6 knots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertgharrison Posted July 29, 2011 Report Share Posted July 29, 2011 I haven't raced in over 30 years, but I'm thinking of getting back into it in a casual around the buoys group. I have a question about PHRF... If you have a 155 on board, do sail with a -6, or do you have to actually use it? How does that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertgharrison Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 One of the Johnstones wrote an article on the differences in PHRF ratings for various J-Boats. I recall that he said the J22 should rate 6 sec/mi slower than the J24 (both boats in OD configuration). Sorry, I don't remember where I saw the article. I think this may be it: http://www.jboats.com/sailboat-phrf-handicap.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertgharrison Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 In PHRF-LO, which covers a wide area around Lake Ontario, it's 165 with a spinnaker and 189 without. I race with those ratings with spinnakers on Tuesdays and without on Thursdays, and we tend to average around the middle of both fleets. I'd be happier if they bumped the numbers up a bit though! I was recently looking into the No Spinnaker question. The Eastern Connecticut PHRF has an adjustment based on the ratio of mainsail size to fore triangle size. Their website is: http://www.ecsa.net/ Click on "Regs, Defs, Adjs" under "PHRF". Based on my calculation, the adjustment for a J22 would be +19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertgharrison Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 In casual racing on Kerr Lake, NC, I was given a rating of 177 with 155 genoa and no spinnaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlawedLogic Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 I just got hit with a 150. Don't ask me how, because I don't know. Apparently there is a -12 for not having an engine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertgharrison Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 I just got hit with a 150. Don't ask me how, because I don't know. Apparently there is a -12 for not having an engine... Still, that works out to 162 with an engine. That seems harsh. Where do you race? Does a 2hp outboard count as an engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlawedLogic Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Still, that works out to 162 with an engine. That seems harsh. Where do you race? Does a 2hp outboard count as an engine? Toronto. And yes, a 2hp would count. If I really cared about a phrf pickle dish I would definitely buy one. EDIT - forgot to add, that's with the class jib, no genny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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